Some answers of our own for that 800 Company
We are here to answer some questions that have been ask by another competitor of ours.

They want you to believe that they are the only game in town with a legitimate vending machine

Well Guess What, They Are Not and We would like to set the record straight..

 
 
 
 

Seen those 800 guys and how they try and make you think they are the best thing since sliced bread?

Have you seen the price on that Combo? WOW it is much higher then some we sell

Well we are happy to answer the questions they say you should ask before you buy from another vending machine supplier.
Our team of vending experts are truly a team working for you.
We offer more then just one style vending machine because not all locations need one style vending machine.

 

1st thing to ask that 800 company is if their new machine even works with Pepsi 16.9 oz bottles?
The 16.9oz bottle is what most suppliers are carrying on their shelf unless you can buy directly from Pepsi 20oz
To buy 20oz bottles from Pepsi you have to commit to so many pallets per month and many operators just can not do that volume.

So they buy from local suppliers who only carry 16.9oz and Pepsi changed their bottle size.

So ask them if their machine works with the new Pepsi 16.9 oz bottle and see what they say.

Our Combo Glass Front Machines Work With both 16.9 and 20oz from Pepsi and Coke as well as many other packages

 

 

 

Their Questions:

 

 

  Our Answers:
Do they accept all major credit cards? Companies that don't usually have problems with their bank and can't get a merchant account. Use credit cards if you have them so you have credit card protection by your bank.

 

  Just because some companies do not accept credit cards does not mean they are not a legitimate company. Many credit card processing houses charge large fees to accept credit cards and many of today's companies do not want to pay or pass those fees on to customers in way of price increases. We take credit cards but would rather be paid by check or some other form of payment and we even build in a cash discount to our customers because we know that not everyone should have to pay for credit card processing fees when they do not use credit cards.
Is the vending company listed with the Better Business Bureau? Do they have any complaints?   Every Business is listed with the BBB but not all  businesses join the BBB due to high cost of fees to be a member. You can look at any business BBB profile by visiting the BBB online and doing a company name search. Granted if there are complaints then you need to look into and ask the company you are doing business with why the complaints exist. Many times those complaints are resolved and the BBB wills how you that. We have a A Rating with the BBB but if we want a A+ rating we have to pay for it and we feel that is not right. Why should one pay a fee to get a better rating?
Is the vending company a member of the United States Chamber of Commerce? You should get a copy of their certificate.   Again, Not everyone feels that paying for a membership to some organization is what is best for their business. Just because you do not pay for a membership does not mean that a business is not honest just might be they are trying to keep cost down.
You can always check them out before you buy,
Is the vending company a member of NAMA (National Automatic Merchandising Association)? NAMA is the watchdog of the vending industry. All legitimate vending companies are members.   NAMA is a great organization and has been around for many years now.
One thing I would like to point out about NAMA is that they promote the vending organization as a whole and do not condone the putting down or trying to make segments of the industry look like it is bad. So a true member of NAMA would be promoting all segments of the industry and not slamming or trying to say certain size machines or segments of the vending industry are bad. If you are a member of NAMA you also should be promoting the good things that the full size or large machines have done for this industry. Slinging dirt at or trying to say one brand of a machine or device is better then another proven brand or device is not in the true spirit of NAMA.
Have they been in business at least 5-10 years? Are you confident they will be around 5-10 years from now to support you and honor their warranties?   This one is sort of funny if you know the history behind some of these 800 companies. The true question is have you been selling the type of machines you are selling now for that long or have you been moving from machine to machine. such as they did? It was my understanding that they sold coin flip machines, then they went to gumball machines, then they went to another manufactures combo machine before they started selling the Paramount Manufacturing Combo machine? So what happen with those other industries, did they not make it or was the equipment they sold just not worth it to them and was not as great as they said it was when they sold their brands?  How does one not look into the quality of the machines they are selling before they put it into their customers hands?
  • Look at their phone number - is it an "800" number? If it's an "888", "877" or an "866" number, they are new to the business and have no track record.
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      Talking about track record. Ask them how long they have been selling snack and soda combo vending machines? Ask them who in the industry have they worked for and where did they get their experience in the industry? Ask them what training has their so called coaches had and what industry seminars or schooling do they have?

    Bet it is not 20 years or even 10 years for that matter. So what they have an 800 number, anyone can get an 800 number and with today's phone planes and unlimited calling why would you pay for an 800 number as that just adds cost to the bottom line that you have to pass on to the customer causing higher prices on machines.

    Did the vending company design, test and manufacture the machine they sell? Be sure you ask them. Most companies are just "re-selling" whatever they can get their hands on - switching machines constantly. Are they still supporting this month the machine they were selling last month? Are they specialists or are they generalists who will sell you anything and everything (offering numerous machines)?   WOW talk about calling the kettle black.

    Ask Paramount Manufacturing Who Manufactures The Machine They Sell..
    Are they saying they are not a reseller of the machine?
    Talking about switching machines constantly, ask them about

    TurnKey , Or about the gumball machines they use to sell or how about Genesis Combo Machine? And what exactly makes them so called specialist? Have they worked in the manufacturing industry of vending machines?

    Is their “combo” vending machine using a cheap coin acceptor? You’ll know if it uses an “electro-mechanical” coin acceptor - which is outdated & problematic. This is critical as it is the “heart” of your machine. Be sure to ask what kind of coin acceptor they use – if they don’t say the name Coinco®, run away!   Ever Heard Of Mars®?

    Well Mars is another leader in coin and bill acceptors and is widely used in many combo vending machines. Just because it does not say Coinco®

    Yes make sure it is one of the 4 leading manufactures of coin and bill handing devices but do not run away from the other 3 as they may save you some money and are just as good if not better in some cases. If you are looking at doing credit card processing, Coinco® only makes a reader where Mars makes an entire system that works with any processing company you want. Also Mars can do remote Monitoring and Coinco® does not make a system that does that but has to use another system to interface with. Now do not get me wrong, Coinco® does make a great system and we also use them but the point I am trying to make is they are not the only ones that make a great system..

    Does their combo machine have zero “bill drop” – where bills stack up on the inside of the machine – causing the machine to spit them back out? If so, you will have money being stolen from your machines. The only solution is to buy a bill acceptor/bill stacker – at about $400-$500/machine.   This is a problem that they experienced in the other combo machine they sold before this one.

    So they did not check out the machine they were selling to make sure it worked properly before they started selling it to their customers?

     

    Or another solution is to have a machine that has the bill drop lower then  the bill validator and make sure it has ample room for storage.

    And I am not sure where they buy their bill validators from at $400.00 to $500.00 but maybe they should shop around as they are available for under $300.00 from many dealers.

     

    Does the combo machine have a rear service door? If not, you will experience a servicing nightmare any time you need to replace a snack motor (mounted to the back of the snack tray). You will be forced to completely remove the affected snack tray from the front of the machine. This involves mechanical disassembly along with removal of wiring cables and harnesses.   The rear service door is just another spot for a vandal to break into.

    Taking a tray out of a machine and reinstalling it is by no means a difficult thing.

    And by no means a so called Service Nightmare..

    If the motors are failing so much that you have to design a access door to replace them, then maybe you should look at better motors that do not need to be replaced as much...

    Does their combo machine feature a coin release button (different from a “coin change” button)? If not, this shortcut will create major headaches and lost revenue in addition to losing good locations. When slightly bent or damaged coins get caught at the throat of the coin acceptor, customers pound on the machine, give up and walk away disgusted.   And they would know as the last machine they sold had this problem.
    Again, why would you not have foreseen this as a problem before you started selling a machine?

    Lack of experience... So to be so called specialist, It would seem to me they would have known this would be a problem before they sold the machines.

    Does their combo machine have pastry coils? If not, you will lose serious revenues. Without these coils you cannot vend popular, high-demand pastry products like Pop Tarts, Clif Bars, cookies (like Mrs. Fields or Famous Amos) or any of the popular Hostess family of products (Twinkies, Ding-Dongs, Cupcakes, Zingers, etc). Two row machines cannot vend pastries. Some three row machines can’t either – so be sure to look at the picture of the three row machine. If you see chips in both the top and middle rows, you know these machines cannot vend pastries.   You mean can the coil sizes be changed or updated on my machine to accommodate different size products?

    This is why one machine does not fit all needs and you should be dealing with a company that can offer you different styles of machines for different needs.
    Do not lock into one machine style or size as you will limit what locations you can offer service to.

     

    How outdated is the machine they sell? Was it being sold back in the 80's or 90's? Is it only mechanical with plastic coin mechanisms for every single product - or is it fully electronic? Mechanical machines can only sell a product for a maximum of $1.00 - so you are missing out on the entire Energy Drink market.   Many machines that started back in the 80's have evolved into industry leaders today.

    Such as The Wittern group or AP or National Or Dixie Narco and so on have set the standard for the industry as we know it today. Now mechanical machines do have their place as they work well where the honor box system is just not that honorable, but again this is why you use a distributor that can help you decide what machine works best for your location needs and offer you choices of machines.

    Also many of the mechanical machines are now above $100.00 in coin mechs settings so again to know what you are talking about and what would work best for your customer is why a distributor of different machines is more valuable then a distributor that only offers one choice of machine.

    Does the machine only sell drinks in a 12oz can? If so, you are dramatically limiting your income.   Depends on what your customer wants or what you want to sell.

    Many 12oz cans are better priced and can offer a wider margin.

    Look for the machine that does what you vend and ask if all selections can be converted to cans or bottles as some of the combo's are limited on what the selection can do and that also can stop you from making adjustments to what you sell down the road.

    Does their machine not only vend a variety of snacks and chips - but also bottled water, sports drinks, and most importantly, energy drinks -in a variety of shapes and sizes? Don't miss out on this huge multi-billion dollar exploding market.   This is a good question and one that I agree with but would add, Does the machine allow for changing of selection sizes on every selection?

    Meaning can I custom set up the combo to do many different things in all selections or am I locked into certain sizes only for certain selections?
    Limited on what size products a certain machine can sell is why you do not use just one machine for every location. You need a machine or machines that will fit the needs of your location and what they may want.

    Does it only offer snacks or only offer drinks?" All-soda" or "All-snack" machines are a poor return on investment.   With combo vending machines capacity is a defiant draw back and can limit you on what locations you can offer your services to. Large all snack or all drink machines open up other doors for you that small combo machines may not. Having a supplier that can offer you both small or large machines that can be set up for your location needs is a great asset in you getting a better return on your investment into the vending industry. Now as far a poor return on your investment, I am sure that the large global vending companies that are operating multi billon dollar accounts would beg to differ.

    But we are not all that large so yes the smaller combo machines do have their place in our industry but the big boy machines are in way more locations making very nice return on investments.

    The key to return on investment is not to pay $5000.00 for a $2500.00 machine and end up in a location that you will never make the amount of money quick enough based on how many people it services.

     

     

    Is their machine engineered with the highest quality materials and workmanship? Most machines are made of inferior materials. Ask them what their machines are made of.   Quality is something that a distributor should already know what is good and what not to sell.

    This is where buying from the right distributor that knows vending equipment and knows the different manufactures in the industry is very valuable. By asking the question of is your machines made good, well anyone knows that who you ask is the key as not one mother out there will tell you that their baby is ugly!

    Where is the machine manufactured is another good question as sometimes it is important to know where the products you are buying come from..

    And make sure they do not just say it is sold in the US, Ok but where is it manufactured

    We carry machines manufactured here in the US as well as Manufactured in other countries.

    Does every single part of their machine carry a 7-Year Limited Warranty? Is it put in writing? If not, don't even consider it.   By limited do you mean after one or two years that the customer has to pay 50% deducible for the part to be replaced?

    And at what cost is that replacement part being sold?

    Example: Lets say the true cost of a replacement motor is $20.00 

    Now lets say the distributor offers an extended warranty and sells that same motor for $40.00 but offers it to you for 50% well you still paid the $20.00 that the distributor has to pay for it so it cost them nothing. Ask exactly what the warranty covers and how much are replacement parts?

    Also is that the manufactures warranty or the distributors?

    Big difference is if the distributor does not stay with that manufacture or the distributor goes out of business the the manufacture will still back the warranty. If the manufacture goes out of business then replacement parts are most likely not going to be available anyway.

    Do they offer a Lifetime theft/fire/vandalism protection guarantee? Is it put in writing?   Again who is covering this warranty
    If a machine is damaged in a fire or theft I would hope you have insurance on it.
    Also I do not know of many machines walking out the door at locations so the chance of someone stealing a snack / drink machine is pretty slim.
  • What about Lifetime guarantees of support/coaching, protection from future price increases and a guarantee that your machines will arrive without damage. Is all this put in writing by an officer of the company?
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      Lets start with a lifetime of phone support, sure we do that..Free

    Protection against a price increase, when you have such a large markup it will cover the price increase.

    How bout this, lower the cost of the machine and make sure that over 10 years it would never be as much as you charge now on such a large markup. Price increases do happen as cost goes up on everything but to build that price increase into the machine today is not worth it to your buyer.

    As far as shipping is concerned that is why you deal with good freight companies that will insure their shipments to make sure if something does get damaged they cover you.

    Do they ship your machines out in a timely manner or make you wait several weeks? Are you given tracking numbers immediately?   Depends on what the factory has in stock on new machines.
    As long as the factory has stock on what is ordered then it ships right away.

    On our refurbished machines it takes about 5 days to get a machine ready but that is what it takes to do the job right.

    Are your machines delivered with “liftgate” services & inside delivery? Or are you responsible for getting them off the truck? Don’t get caught with this delivery “surprise.”   Depends on what the customer needs.

    But again this is why working with a distributor that knows what questions to ask while placing your order is important.

     

    If any of your machines are damaged during delivery, are you sent out a new machine immediately? Or do you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork with the shipping company and hope that they will eventually take care of it?   Is paramount handling your freight for you?

    This depends on if the customer signs for the freight clear of damage or if the do like they should and inspect the freight before the driver leaves. If you inspect the freight while the driver is there your machine can be refused if the damage is sufficient that you want to refuse it.

    If you sign for the freight and do not inspect it then it becomes more involved

    But either way we are here for our customers and we work to get you taken care of right away.

    By knowing what to do when your freight arrives is what saves everyone heartache.

     

    Does the vending company have an experienced, In-house coaching division? Are you assigned your own personal coach - a person who is paid a salary to do nothing else but help you succeed - and who is in the office every day?   Yes we do, it is called the sales representative and ours have over 20 years of experience.
    By the way try calling us in the middle of the night and see how quick we respond.

    24 /7 we get back to you in 2 hours top after hours

    Even Sundays

    Most of the time we are at the phone within a few min or you get a live person when you call after hours.

     

     

    What happens when you need parts? Does the company respond immediately by sending out what's needed? Some companies say they do, but in reality they complicate the issue or make you send the whole machine to them for something to be "fixed" - and you pay for shipping both ways.   I have never heard of anyone having to send the whole machine back for a problem.

    If your technicians can not trouble shoot over the phone and explain how to remove a part then your machine is to complicated. And by the way are your machines having so many break downs that this is really an issue? Also anytime a part is returned and is under warranty we pay the freight back to you.

    Poor Quality Combo Vending Machines   Funny thing is one of the examples they show on the website is manufactured by the company they use to sell for.

    All-Soda/All-Snack Vending Machines Problem 2

    Outrageous Investment In Order To Offer A Variety of Products

     

      Not true, we have some very nice full size combo machines that are less money the what those 800 guys sell that compact combo machine for.

    And with quality refurbished machines we can save you even more!!!

    All-Soda/All-Snack Vending Machines Problem 3

    "Themed" Soda Machines Narrow Choices

    Most all-soda machines are "themed" - in other words, they display the logo and theme of one of the major soft drink companies such as Coca-Cola or Pepsi. With a themed machine, you are stuck selling drink brands that are only part of that company. For example, you cannot sell Gatorade in a Coke machine because Gatorade is owned by Pepsi. With themed machines, you cannot sell what is most popular in any given location. In some locations, Coke will outsell Pepsi - but Diet Pepsi will outsell Diet Coke. You cannot cross brand names with these machines which severely narrows your customers' options - and therefore your income.

     

      That's why you get a generic drink machine from a distributor.
    We sell generic drink machines with no bottler logo's

    And by the way, Coke and Pepsi do not sell new machines to you personally so the chances of you getting a Coke or Pepsi themed machine are none unless you are doing  co op program with them or if you buy the machine used. Now if you buy a used machine with a Coke or Pepsi logo then you can put in it what you want as it is your machine.

    With full size drink machines you have more capacity and wider options then with the drink machine that is with the combo that those 800 companies sell.

    All-Soda/All-Snack Vending Machines Problem 4

    Cannot Vend Energy Drinks
    All-soda machines cannot vend Energy drinks. These machines are set up to vend only bottles or cans. Bottle- only machines cannot vend cans of any type. Can-only machines are set up to vend standard 12 oz soda cans only. They cannot be adjusted to fit larger or smaller energy drink cans. You will miss out on this exploding, multi-billion dollar market.

     

     

      Again Not True,

    To be such experts in the vending industry it is funny how they do not know this stuff.

     

    Many of the full size drink machines and even some of the compact ones do a wide variety of drinks including energy drinks in 16.9 oz cans such as monster or rock start to name a few.

    And even the smaller energy drinks and even the coffee in a can can be done in many of the machines.

    Set ups are not a problem with us as we offer set up of machines to accommodate the many different sizes and selections out there. Many of our full size machines are not limited by selection as to what you can sell out of it.  We can offer machines that can do a wide variety of selections in all selections and not locking you into just a certain size can or bottle per selection

    Ask if all selections on the drink machine can be set up for different size products!

     

    Diminishing Returns On Snack Investment

    Most all-snack machines hold at least 45 different types of snacks. This is a huge investment for one location. Most locations needing a machine like this are serviced by large vending companies who have long-term contracts with the location. The small to medium-sized companies (your target market) who are looking for machines do not have enough employees to support a machine holding 400-500 snacks. To prevent massive product spoilage, you have two options with these machines: The first is to fill only some of the product coils - but the establishment doesn't like the looks of a half empty machine. The second option is to place a few products in each product coil. This gives the appearance that the machine is full, but forces you to service the machine more often as the few products in each coil are sold leaving the coil empty.

     

      That why you need to be dealing with a distributor that can offer you machines that fit your needs and not locked into just one size machine.

    As you can see they point out that the market for their machine is the small to medium market

    With that size market is more important to make sure you are not paying more for a small machine that will take longer to get your return on your investment.

    Also make sure that you do not lock into one size machine that limits what accounts you can service because as you grow your accounts sizes will grow also and those larger machines will be what you need for those larger accounts.

    If you are serious about being in the vending industry the I am sure you are serious about growing

    We offer all sizes of machines that will allow you to service all size accounts.

     

    The Most State-of-the-Art Vending
    Machine Manufacturing Plant In the World
      I would say that Paramount does a good job of manufacturing  compact combo vending machines for all of us who sell their products.

     

    But have you seen the Wittern group Manufacturing Plant In Des Moines?

    It is pretty impressive.


    Have you seen AMS Manufacturing in VA.?

    Pretty state of the art.

     

    Have you visited National Vendors In SC?

    Maybe you should and you would see what really state of the art is

     

    I hope they are not saying that the 800 company is the actual manufacture of that combo, as they are just a reseller like many other resellers for Paramount Manufacturing Company.

     

     

     

     

     

    So if you are ready to talk straight and need the true facts on the vending industry
    Then we are here for you..

    We do not want to use scare tactics or words like run away. or all of this kind of machines are bad, we want to be a true coach and assist you in the learning aspect of choosing the right machines for the right job.

    Call us today and see why we are your go to company.

    704-802-4394